Memory Lane
Nov. 25th, 2018 09:48 pm1. In strolling through my archives, I've realized that politics has always been an incendiary topic.
I lost three correspondents in 2008 election, two-die hard Hillary supporters, who were upset with my infrequent posts on the topic. And one-die hard McCain/Palin supporter, who was an ultra-conservative pro-Israel political science academic. I'd met her in person and knew she was conservative, just didn't realize she was THAT conservative. We got in a fight over Camilia Paglia and Sarah Palin of all things. She's long since disappeared. I wonder what she's thinking about politics now? The other two, I had long debates regarding the fact that as much as I respected Hillary Clinton, I did not think she had a chance in hell of winning over McCain/Palin, and wasn't charismatic enough to get elected. Also, there were too many people who hated her -- even back then.
Politics Redux
What's also interesting in the above link is most of the people commenting on it -- are long gone from DW/LJ. They've moved onto FB or other sites.
Puts things in perspective. We seem to be repeating ourselves.
2. In re-reading posts...I realized that not only was politics an incendiary topic, so was anything critiquing the Buffy fandom, critiquing the comics, critiquing Buffy or regarding Spike and Buffy relationship, or comparing Angel to Spike. (Although I still think the Doctor Who, The X-men/Marvel, General Hospital, and Supernatural Fandoms are far nuttier than the Buffy fandom ever was. Having dipped my toe in all of the above. Buffy had nothing on them. I'm thinking longevity probably adds to it. More time to attract bat-shit crazy-obsessed fans.)
My difficulty with Buffy, which is similar to my issues with most long-running television series. And that is a lack of logical plot and/or character continuity. Sometimes just from episode to episode. The comics were even worse in regards to continuity. Whedon brought back characters, and forgot various subplots.
Also, without exception, every nasty fight I had with the online Buffy fandom seemed to be about Spike (and/or whether the Buffy comics were canonical to the series.) It got tiring after a while.
( Read more... )
3. I apparently went on a Meta saving kick in 2009 (which is when my GeoCities site went down, and I found out that the only way I would be able to save all the meta I posted to the boards, would be to save it to my journal).
So if you want to find all my Buffy meta - go here: https://shadowkat.dreamwidth.org/2009/07/
Ghod, I wrote an embarrassingly amount of Buffy meta. I think the online equivalent of two 400 pages books worth. I wish I could say it was well written. There are a lot of typos and grammatical errors in there -- mainly because I proofed them myself and never had anyone else edit or beta them. (Too chicken to ask, also I didn't know you could do that. Many of them were literally written off-the-cuff.)
I think I finally got tired of defending my favorite character in the Whedonverse to folks.
4. I also wrote about Torchwood ...a bit along with other television shows.
* Torchwood - Children of Earth Miniseries Meta/Review
And other doctor who episodes. Didn't get the same number of responses though. Mainly because my knowledge of the Whoverse was rather limited in scope. And I'd never been a diehard fan. (I actually liked Torchwood better, more serialized and ensemble. Doctor Who was too much like those old hero saves person of the week shows dating back to Quantum Leap, The Fugitive, the Incredible Hulk, etc for me to really fall in love with it.)
5. The best posts...I think, may have been the personal ones, which were often flocked or privatized. Which is interesting. I just posted one that had been privatized to Word Press.
Tell Me A Story.
( personal essays vs. meta )
6. On a final note, a more melancholy one...what I mostly struck by wandering through these old posts is how many people have long since left the Dreamwidth and LJ forums (myself included -- I'm no longer on lj and am crossed out in others journals on that forum).
Some dead...I really miss embers_log.
Others just gone.
Most left in 2011, apparently. Some left in 2017. Gone to other forums, most likely.
I know half the ATPO Board is now on FB. That's where I interact with rahael, ponygirl2000, masq, midnight jane, anne1962, superplin, matcha, mamacunluna, and sometimes dochawk, Elle, D'H, and buffyannatator (who I'm no longer really following).
The other half is here. It's like all the women fled to FB, and all the men stayed on DW. And they both disparage the other medium. The FB group isn't found of DW/LJ and the DW group isn't fond of FB.
I find it hilarious. I've had these mirror-like discussions with both, where I'm either defending FB or DW.
And others, they jumped to other forums, I'm guessing.
I lost three correspondents in 2008 election, two-die hard Hillary supporters, who were upset with my infrequent posts on the topic. And one-die hard McCain/Palin supporter, who was an ultra-conservative pro-Israel political science academic. I'd met her in person and knew she was conservative, just didn't realize she was THAT conservative. We got in a fight over Camilia Paglia and Sarah Palin of all things. She's long since disappeared. I wonder what she's thinking about politics now? The other two, I had long debates regarding the fact that as much as I respected Hillary Clinton, I did not think she had a chance in hell of winning over McCain/Palin, and wasn't charismatic enough to get elected. Also, there were too many people who hated her -- even back then.
Politics Redux
What's also interesting in the above link is most of the people commenting on it -- are long gone from DW/LJ. They've moved onto FB or other sites.
Puts things in perspective. We seem to be repeating ourselves.
2. In re-reading posts...I realized that not only was politics an incendiary topic, so was anything critiquing the Buffy fandom, critiquing the comics, critiquing Buffy or regarding Spike and Buffy relationship, or comparing Angel to Spike. (Although I still think the Doctor Who, The X-men/Marvel, General Hospital, and Supernatural Fandoms are far nuttier than the Buffy fandom ever was. Having dipped my toe in all of the above. Buffy had nothing on them. I'm thinking longevity probably adds to it. More time to attract bat-shit crazy-obsessed fans.)
My difficulty with Buffy, which is similar to my issues with most long-running television series. And that is a lack of logical plot and/or character continuity. Sometimes just from episode to episode. The comics were even worse in regards to continuity. Whedon brought back characters, and forgot various subplots.
Also, without exception, every nasty fight I had with the online Buffy fandom seemed to be about Spike (and/or whether the Buffy comics were canonical to the series.) It got tiring after a while.
( Read more... )
3. I apparently went on a Meta saving kick in 2009 (which is when my GeoCities site went down, and I found out that the only way I would be able to save all the meta I posted to the boards, would be to save it to my journal).
So if you want to find all my Buffy meta - go here: https://shadowkat.dreamwidth.org/2009/07/
Ghod, I wrote an embarrassingly amount of Buffy meta. I think the online equivalent of two 400 pages books worth. I wish I could say it was well written. There are a lot of typos and grammatical errors in there -- mainly because I proofed them myself and never had anyone else edit or beta them. (Too chicken to ask, also I didn't know you could do that. Many of them were literally written off-the-cuff.)
I think I finally got tired of defending my favorite character in the Whedonverse to folks.
4. I also wrote about Torchwood ...a bit along with other television shows.
* Torchwood - Children of Earth Miniseries Meta/Review
And other doctor who episodes. Didn't get the same number of responses though. Mainly because my knowledge of the Whoverse was rather limited in scope. And I'd never been a diehard fan. (I actually liked Torchwood better, more serialized and ensemble. Doctor Who was too much like those old hero saves person of the week shows dating back to Quantum Leap, The Fugitive, the Incredible Hulk, etc for me to really fall in love with it.)
5. The best posts...I think, may have been the personal ones, which were often flocked or privatized. Which is interesting. I just posted one that had been privatized to Word Press.
Tell Me A Story.
( personal essays vs. meta )
6. On a final note, a more melancholy one...what I mostly struck by wandering through these old posts is how many people have long since left the Dreamwidth and LJ forums (myself included -- I'm no longer on lj and am crossed out in others journals on that forum).
Some dead...I really miss embers_log.
Others just gone.
Most left in 2011, apparently. Some left in 2017. Gone to other forums, most likely.
I know half the ATPO Board is now on FB. That's where I interact with rahael, ponygirl2000, masq, midnight jane, anne1962, superplin, matcha, mamacunluna, and sometimes dochawk, Elle, D'H, and buffyannatator (who I'm no longer really following).
The other half is here. It's like all the women fled to FB, and all the men stayed on DW. And they both disparage the other medium. The FB group isn't found of DW/LJ and the DW group isn't fond of FB.
I find it hilarious. I've had these mirror-like discussions with both, where I'm either defending FB or DW.
And others, they jumped to other forums, I'm guessing.