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In a crappy mood. The weather mocks me with its beauty. So a poll about villianous acts in the Buffyverse. The worst ones. The best villians. The lamest villians. And villianous or indefensible acts by favorite characters or what we think are indefensible acts, everyone's mileage varies on this, I'm certain. Actually the biggest flamewars online have been over the indefensible acts of popular characters and whether they are redeemed. I'm curious to see where the vast majority of the Buffy lj fandom that happens to read or occassionally read my journal falls on this point. Course the fear of doing polls is no one will respond, memes are easier in that regard. The other problem with polls is you can't edit after posting and there are just so many ticky boxes. So if not on the list, provide a comment. But remember to
be respectful of other's views, particular those that make you scratch your head and go, huh?

[Poll #1488559]

Date: 2009-11-22 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
From a creator perspective or initial poster: Memes are easier to create - because you can be more general and there's less likelihood for error. Also you can edit afterwards. Polls you can't edit afterwards, and you always screw something up. For example - I apparently should have included Andrew over some of the other people. (But I found Andrew sort of inconsequential so forgot him. Or at least that's the excuse I'm going with at the moment. LOL!)
And I'm not sure Cordy really had much of a redemptive arc in Buffy. Also there's less risk in a meme, with a poll - if no one participates, but you, you are sitting there with the equivalent of egg on your face.

But Polls are far more interesting. All a meme does is reveal what you think. Interacting with it is difficult. It's very - look at me, very ego-centric.
And you're right it's hard to know if anyone else has done it. And from a participant or reader standpoint - memes are work for participants - instead of just clicking on a ticky box - you have to cut past the questions, delete the answers, and write new answers. Time consuming. A poll on the other hand is fun, you click a box, you see how others responded and you get the reward of seeing that you may not be alone in all your views. While at the same time, noting there are people who feel the exact opposite.


Date: 2009-11-22 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] embers-log.livejournal.com
"you get the reward of seeing that you may not be alone in all your views"
Well if it makes you feel any better, it would never have occurred to me to include Andrew either. Killing Jonathan was terrible (I always loved Jonathan), but Andrew was being so continually manipulated/haunted by The First/Warren that I'm not sure that the killing seemed like a real thing to Andrew. I think you're right, that he was pretty much insane at the time.
I think I liked Andrew (in Season 7 of BtVS, and in Ats S5) more than a lot of people, but I agree w/you that his presence was inconsequential and not really necessary to the poll. But of course it is always interesting to hear from people who considered him very consequential!

Date: 2009-11-22 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
If you read some of the responses below - Andrew was apparently very consequential to some people. There's not a lot of consensus. At the moment in the most indefensible act sweepstakes The Watcher's Council, Xander, and Willow are in a three-way tie. I think Willow may win. The act they picked as the worst Willow act is not what I would have guessed.

Also the only consensus seems to be that the annoited one was the lamest villian. Not complete consensus.

The one thing this poll demonstrates and reassuringly validates is the degree to which mileage varies. It does vary quite a bit. Actually my review of Caprica demonstrated that as well. I apparently liked Caprica more than everyone else did, not all that surprising - since everyone else likes Doctor Who more than I do. (grins)

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