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Edgy, discombobulated, depressed and want a hug. Current state of mind. Also would not mind being hit by a bus, although I think I'd probably survive it or be kept alive, since haven't completed my living will yet, and that would not be fun. Am kidding. Well sort of. This whole treading water crap at work is driving me batty, let's face it I've treaded water for so long now that I'm beginning to feel like a prune. Don't know what to do. Usually in these situations - I start hunting a job elsewhere. Am tempted, but the idea of going back out there again and interviewing is not something I want to deal with - especially if it's just for another job like the one I already got.
Watched Alias finale last night, liked the flashbacks - which did a halfway decent job of pulling what has become a rather chaotic storyline together. Did feel a bit too much like someone had come along and said, okay, audience, forget all the stupid stuff we did - here's what the story was supposed to be. One can't help but wonder what television shows would be like if the creators were allowed to thoroughly edit, proof, and correct them a la a novel or movie, before they air. Instead of just cobbling stuff together last minute and hoping it makes sense.
Rest of Alias reminded me a little of Mission Impossible III - lots of stunts and torture sequences. Did like how they wrapped up the Sloan storyline - not so much the Irina one.
Also re-watched Veronica Mars - the season opener, "Normal is the WatchWord" on Sunday. Have decided VM is possibly the best femme noir I've seen. It does an excellent job of flipping the gender roles. Others have tried it and have not pulled it off. The season opener visually echoes the season ender - there's one scene that is the reverse opposite of a scene in the first episode, a scene that links back to the conclusion of the previous season. Impressed me when I saw it. Proved someone on that show as paying attention and attempting to make the two seasons one long novel or arc. You have to be careful with VM and realize it's noir, it is not going to be happy, it is not going to be like Buffy or Joan of Arcadia or those types of shows. Noir by its very nature tends to be bleak. We don't get happy in noir, best we can hope for is content or temporarily happy - which come to think of it, is a lot like real life, may explain why people aren't nuts about noir.
And Desperate Housewives...which was okay. Bree's and Mary Alice/Zac's storylines were the only ones that did not grate on my nerves. I missed Edie, who I prefer over Susan.
Looking forward to House tonight and Lost. Also, is it just me or are one too many tv shows this season ending with gunfire? Probably just me.
Currently reading this book by Walter J. Miller called "A Canticile for Leibowitz", which tapped me on the shoulder in the book store and said, read me. I was there to buy Butcher novels and had three in my hand, when my eye landed on it. Walked away from it. Came back. Read the back. Read the first two paragraphs. Read the introduction by Maria Doria Russell about the difference between fiction and literature - there isn't one. Put it down, left. Came back again. Left again. Came back a third time and bought the thing. Raced through the rest of the not-so-great Sookie Stackhouse novel I'd been reading, and picked it up to read on the train on Monday. Told self if puts me to sleep will go back to Sookie Stackhouse - have one novel left of the lacklustre series - there's six in all. And it did put me to sleep, so tried to put it aside. But no, I had to pick it up again and read some more last night and once again, it found its way into my bag to be read on the train this morning. Persistent little book. Do books do this to anyone else? Say, you have to read me? Now! Probably not. I'm just crazy. I know this.
Near as I can tell, Book is about an order of monks in the distant future.One monk in the desert doing a fast, stumbles upon a fallout shelter and several papers from a by-gone era. The description on the back of the book reads as follows: "Winner of the 1961 Hugo Award for Best Novel and widely considered one of the most accomplished, powerful and enduring classics of modern speculative fiction [if I had a dollar for every book that claimed that I'd be rich], Canticle for Leibowitz is a true landmark of twentieth-century literature - a chilling and still provocative look at a post-apocalyptic future."
"In a nightmarish ruined world slowly awakening to the light after sleeping in darkness, the infant rediscoveries of science are secretly nourished by cloistered monks dedicated to the study and preservation of the relics and writings of the blessed Saint Issac Leibowitz. From here the story spans centuries of ignorance, violence, and barbarism, viewing through a sharp, satirical eye the relentless progression of a human race damned by its inherent humanness to recelebrate its grand foibles and repeat its grievous mistakes." [It also claims to be funny and tragic at the same time.]
So I open the book and the Introduction by sci-fi writer Maria Doria Russell, [apparently Miller is dead or unavailable and can't do it himself], starts off with the question: "Fiction or Literature?" [As a former English Lit major who adores graphic novels and genre novels much to the chagrin of many a friend and professor, this amuses me greatly.]
"Go into a bookstore and you'll find novels shelved alphabetically by author's last name but divided into a number of categories: mystery, science fiction, romance. Each genre gets its own section, which is understandable, but then there are novels classified as Fiction and others as Literature. What's the difference between the two?
My first guess was that to be Literature, the novel's author had to be dead.
That hypothesis was disproved the next time I checked the shelves. I looked both words up in the dictionary when I got home. Fiction was defined as 'any literary work portraying imaginary characters and events, as a novel, story or play,' while literature included 'all writings in prose or verse, especially those of an imaginative character, but especially those having excellence of rom or permanent value."
So basically, Literature is classier than Fiction.
Still curious, I started asking people in the book business how they decided what was classy enough to be Literature. The semiserious consensus among the pros was, "Of an editor has to look up three words while reading the manuscript, it's literature." The best answer I got was from my stepbrother Jack Provenzale, who doesn't sell books but is a passionate reader. He said, 'Literature changes you. When you're done reading, you're a different person.'
A Canticile for Leibowitz is Literature, no matter how you define it.
Its author, Walter J. Miller, Jr. is indeed dead: tragically (and ironically, considering the final third of the book), a suicide. [Ah dead. And a suicide no less.] Mr. Miller was by all accounts a difficult person who distanced himself from colleagues, friends and family and finally, after decades of increasingly unbearable depression, from life itself. In 1996, he died of a self-inflicted gunshot at the age of seventy-four. "
Russel goes on to state how reading this novel changed her each time she read it.
Okay....in other words, Literature is in the eye of the beholder, like pretty much everything else on the planet.
Do agree with her brother's view on Literature. I think the novels that haunt us and change us are the ones worth keeping, are literature. The ones that leave our memories, no matter how big and fancy and obscure the words, are fiction or non-fiction as the case may be.
Genre has zip to do with it. What is important is whether or not that magical moment occurs when you feel someone touching your hand and saying what you felt but could not put into words. OR flipping your perspective, so for a moment, you see through someone else's eyes. To do that, you do not need words that have to be looked up in a dictionary, but words that hit you between the eyes and make you sit up and take notice.
At any rate - first sentence of the book:"Brother Francis Gerard of Utah might never have discovered the blessed documents, had it not been for the pilgrim with girded loins who appeared during that young novice's Lenten fast in the desert."
First four sentences of second chapter:
"And then Father, I almost took the bread and cheese."
"But you didn't take it?"
"No."
"Then there was no sin by deed."
"But I wanted it so badly, I could tast it."
Ah, nice. Dialogue that serves a purpose. Been reading Charlain Harris novels, the dialogue is quite scannable. Charlain Harris novels are fiction in my opinion. I didn't leave them changed a wit. Comforting and somewhat distracting fiction, that requires little concentration and not much brain power, also lots of fun. But fiction all the same. Guilty pleasures. Must have them. Cotton candy for the brain.
At any rate new book has given me back my muse, which I'd mislaid for a bit. Actually finished Chapter 18 yesterday, had only been working on it for three weeks. And it's not a long chapter.
Will see how long stay with new book. Have finished first 40 pages. Not bad. Not as fast moving as other books or as gripping, but pulls at me and I can't let go of it. Hard to explain. Don't get it myself.
You must hate these rambles. No organization to them whatsoever.
Okay off for dinner. Feel less discombobulated and depressed at least. Don't know if will leave this up or not. Public for now. Figure haven't said anything too revealing that would get me into trouble. Then again, figured I hadn't at work either, until Boss cautioned me to keep my big mouth shut around certain people who would turn on me in an instant if it fit their purpose - which is one of the reasons felt discombobulated to begin with.
Watched Alias finale last night, liked the flashbacks - which did a halfway decent job of pulling what has become a rather chaotic storyline together. Did feel a bit too much like someone had come along and said, okay, audience, forget all the stupid stuff we did - here's what the story was supposed to be. One can't help but wonder what television shows would be like if the creators were allowed to thoroughly edit, proof, and correct them a la a novel or movie, before they air. Instead of just cobbling stuff together last minute and hoping it makes sense.
Rest of Alias reminded me a little of Mission Impossible III - lots of stunts and torture sequences. Did like how they wrapped up the Sloan storyline - not so much the Irina one.
Also re-watched Veronica Mars - the season opener, "Normal is the WatchWord" on Sunday. Have decided VM is possibly the best femme noir I've seen. It does an excellent job of flipping the gender roles. Others have tried it and have not pulled it off. The season opener visually echoes the season ender - there's one scene that is the reverse opposite of a scene in the first episode, a scene that links back to the conclusion of the previous season. Impressed me when I saw it. Proved someone on that show as paying attention and attempting to make the two seasons one long novel or arc. You have to be careful with VM and realize it's noir, it is not going to be happy, it is not going to be like Buffy or Joan of Arcadia or those types of shows. Noir by its very nature tends to be bleak. We don't get happy in noir, best we can hope for is content or temporarily happy - which come to think of it, is a lot like real life, may explain why people aren't nuts about noir.
And Desperate Housewives...which was okay. Bree's and Mary Alice/Zac's storylines were the only ones that did not grate on my nerves. I missed Edie, who I prefer over Susan.
Looking forward to House tonight and Lost. Also, is it just me or are one too many tv shows this season ending with gunfire? Probably just me.
Currently reading this book by Walter J. Miller called "A Canticile for Leibowitz", which tapped me on the shoulder in the book store and said, read me. I was there to buy Butcher novels and had three in my hand, when my eye landed on it. Walked away from it. Came back. Read the back. Read the first two paragraphs. Read the introduction by Maria Doria Russell about the difference between fiction and literature - there isn't one. Put it down, left. Came back again. Left again. Came back a third time and bought the thing. Raced through the rest of the not-so-great Sookie Stackhouse novel I'd been reading, and picked it up to read on the train on Monday. Told self if puts me to sleep will go back to Sookie Stackhouse - have one novel left of the lacklustre series - there's six in all. And it did put me to sleep, so tried to put it aside. But no, I had to pick it up again and read some more last night and once again, it found its way into my bag to be read on the train this morning. Persistent little book. Do books do this to anyone else? Say, you have to read me? Now! Probably not. I'm just crazy. I know this.
Near as I can tell, Book is about an order of monks in the distant future.One monk in the desert doing a fast, stumbles upon a fallout shelter and several papers from a by-gone era. The description on the back of the book reads as follows: "Winner of the 1961 Hugo Award for Best Novel and widely considered one of the most accomplished, powerful and enduring classics of modern speculative fiction [if I had a dollar for every book that claimed that I'd be rich], Canticle for Leibowitz is a true landmark of twentieth-century literature - a chilling and still provocative look at a post-apocalyptic future."
"In a nightmarish ruined world slowly awakening to the light after sleeping in darkness, the infant rediscoveries of science are secretly nourished by cloistered monks dedicated to the study and preservation of the relics and writings of the blessed Saint Issac Leibowitz. From here the story spans centuries of ignorance, violence, and barbarism, viewing through a sharp, satirical eye the relentless progression of a human race damned by its inherent humanness to recelebrate its grand foibles and repeat its grievous mistakes." [It also claims to be funny and tragic at the same time.]
So I open the book and the Introduction by sci-fi writer Maria Doria Russell, [apparently Miller is dead or unavailable and can't do it himself], starts off with the question: "Fiction or Literature?" [As a former English Lit major who adores graphic novels and genre novels much to the chagrin of many a friend and professor, this amuses me greatly.]
"Go into a bookstore and you'll find novels shelved alphabetically by author's last name but divided into a number of categories: mystery, science fiction, romance. Each genre gets its own section, which is understandable, but then there are novels classified as Fiction and others as Literature. What's the difference between the two?
My first guess was that to be Literature, the novel's author had to be dead.
That hypothesis was disproved the next time I checked the shelves. I looked both words up in the dictionary when I got home. Fiction was defined as 'any literary work portraying imaginary characters and events, as a novel, story or play,' while literature included 'all writings in prose or verse, especially those of an imaginative character, but especially those having excellence of rom or permanent value."
So basically, Literature is classier than Fiction.
Still curious, I started asking people in the book business how they decided what was classy enough to be Literature. The semiserious consensus among the pros was, "Of an editor has to look up three words while reading the manuscript, it's literature." The best answer I got was from my stepbrother Jack Provenzale, who doesn't sell books but is a passionate reader. He said, 'Literature changes you. When you're done reading, you're a different person.'
A Canticile for Leibowitz is Literature, no matter how you define it.
Its author, Walter J. Miller, Jr. is indeed dead: tragically (and ironically, considering the final third of the book), a suicide. [Ah dead. And a suicide no less.] Mr. Miller was by all accounts a difficult person who distanced himself from colleagues, friends and family and finally, after decades of increasingly unbearable depression, from life itself. In 1996, he died of a self-inflicted gunshot at the age of seventy-four. "
Russel goes on to state how reading this novel changed her each time she read it.
Okay....in other words, Literature is in the eye of the beholder, like pretty much everything else on the planet.
Do agree with her brother's view on Literature. I think the novels that haunt us and change us are the ones worth keeping, are literature. The ones that leave our memories, no matter how big and fancy and obscure the words, are fiction or non-fiction as the case may be.
Genre has zip to do with it. What is important is whether or not that magical moment occurs when you feel someone touching your hand and saying what you felt but could not put into words. OR flipping your perspective, so for a moment, you see through someone else's eyes. To do that, you do not need words that have to be looked up in a dictionary, but words that hit you between the eyes and make you sit up and take notice.
At any rate - first sentence of the book:"Brother Francis Gerard of Utah might never have discovered the blessed documents, had it not been for the pilgrim with girded loins who appeared during that young novice's Lenten fast in the desert."
First four sentences of second chapter:
"And then Father, I almost took the bread and cheese."
"But you didn't take it?"
"No."
"Then there was no sin by deed."
"But I wanted it so badly, I could tast it."
Ah, nice. Dialogue that serves a purpose. Been reading Charlain Harris novels, the dialogue is quite scannable. Charlain Harris novels are fiction in my opinion. I didn't leave them changed a wit. Comforting and somewhat distracting fiction, that requires little concentration and not much brain power, also lots of fun. But fiction all the same. Guilty pleasures. Must have them. Cotton candy for the brain.
At any rate new book has given me back my muse, which I'd mislaid for a bit. Actually finished Chapter 18 yesterday, had only been working on it for three weeks. And it's not a long chapter.
Will see how long stay with new book. Have finished first 40 pages. Not bad. Not as fast moving as other books or as gripping, but pulls at me and I can't let go of it. Hard to explain. Don't get it myself.
You must hate these rambles. No organization to them whatsoever.
Okay off for dinner. Feel less discombobulated and depressed at least. Don't know if will leave this up or not. Public for now. Figure haven't said anything too revealing that would get me into trouble. Then again, figured I hadn't at work either, until Boss cautioned me to keep my big mouth shut around certain people who would turn on me in an instant if it fit their purpose - which is one of the reasons felt discombobulated to begin with.
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Date: 2006-05-23 11:52 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-24 12:32 am (UTC)It makes me crazy. ;-)
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Date: 2006-05-24 01:27 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-24 10:44 pm (UTC)Chocolat, I'm okay with as long as I don't overdo.
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Date: 2006-05-24 01:27 am (UTC)at one point in Season 2 Veronica actually got happier, she was dating Duncan and her Father was ahead in the the political race to regain the Sheriff's office, and I found that the show wasn't working for me.... Veronica Mars is better when she is alone and miserable and fighting up hill....
I hope you can stop
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Date: 2006-05-24 10:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-24 11:27 pm (UTC)LOL
yes that is the existential hero in a nut-shell!
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Date: 2006-05-24 02:28 am (UTC)I had the pleasure of reading the book once on the Eastern Shore while waiting for my car to get a new engine.
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Date: 2006-05-24 03:23 am (UTC)It is indeed literature.
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Date: 2006-05-25 02:47 pm (UTC)Obscure words. At times a ponderous/pandering tone. But deliberate.
And humorous. Just sleep inducing. Only on page 50. Does appear to be getting a touch better.
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Date: 2006-05-24 02:06 pm (UTC)I think we can find the same difference on television. Many tv shows don't really care about the form. It's obvious about Soap operas, but also other kind of series. They simply aim to entertain and tell stories by showing characters and actions (romance, adventure etc).
BTVS did work on the form with its metaphorical languages and visual clues. Of course it showed more in episodes like "Hush" or OMWF (or even in FFL with the arty NY flashback sequence) than in other episodes, but the work on the form was part of what the series was.
I don't think we can say the same about many other tv shows.
How do we define art?
Date: 2006-05-24 06:25 pm (UTC)Harelquin romance novels, dime-store sci-fi, cozies, or those paint-by-numbers posters you get at the local Wal-mart.
That said, a harelquin romance can become art. Just as a dime-store sci-fi.
So how do you define "art"? Is it by style? Substance? Can you even place an objective qualifier on it?
And who should be the judge? Someone with multiple degrees or a PHd in art, literature, or what have you? Or a guy who barely has a high school diploma, but picked say - Huckleberry Finn and had an epiphany?
What is art? Is it a subjective thing? Is it in the eye of the beholder?
Some people adore Jackson Pollack, but if they had a choice between putting Pollack up in their house and their kid's watercolor, they might pick their kid's watercolor. Is Pollack art? According to the "experts" with their degrees - he is. It reminds me a bit of Wizard of OZ - when the Wizard tells the scarecrow - he'll give him a college degree and this means he has a brain. The Wizard of OZ was not always considered literature by the way.
To me, art is not about form. It's not something that comes out of a set group of rules or standards made up by a committee of highly educated people who may or may not have created anything in their lives, but rather something that comes from the heart of the person creating it. Their voice, their thoughts, their experience, honest and true of themselves. I once had a creative writing professor who told us - don't write unless you feel you have something to say. And I remember while watching the movie Capote - Capote told his friend Harper Lee that her book was a fun read but he would hardly consider it literature or "art" - it did not live up to what he wrote. Yet, yet, over 20 years later, many school children have been assigned to read To Kill A Mockingbird in their classrooms. And unlike Melville's Moby Dick, which people often will hunt the cliff-notes for because they feel tortured by Melville's dense prose, they've fallen in love with the simplicity and heart behind Lee's writing. Lee wrote only one book.
It was her story. And it was based upon her experience. And it told a good story, a thrilling one. It was art.
Yes, it is true there are many books and tv shows that I don't consider art or for that matter particularly entertaining - I hesistate at times to judge them as less than art. OTOH - there are shows that pretend to be no more than they are, just soaps, just pure mass entertainment, money making ventures. And there's nothing wrong with that either. Many children and adults cut their reading teeth on such things.
Do have a question for you - do you consider the Nancy Drew Mysteries written by multiple writers under one psuedonyme, literature or fiction?
I'd say fiction. Except, except, these mysteries have lasted decades. The stories handed down from generation to generation - and have inspired numerous tv and movies - including most recently, Veronica Mars. So wouldn't that make it art?
Re: How do we define art?
Date: 2006-05-24 07:42 pm (UTC)I can't agree with you. I don't think that because someone is genuine and sharing their feelings what they do is art. You can read the most heartbreaking autobiography where an author completey makes you feel what he/she felt, but it doesn't make of it a piece of literature.
I don't equate literature with writing. Literature implies an aesthetical dimension, a research on form. It is its goal, it's raison d'ĂȘtre before anything else.
It can be through a very plain style or a luxuriant one, or becaus eof its cinematography...or it can because of a very original structure. It can be specific rythmes, whatever.
But it isn't only words telling a story with heart, expressing experiences or feelings. Literature is about the way a writer uses those words to tell a story, express an experience or feelings, about the effects he/she used. It isn't caracterized by a genre or a medium.
The fact it resonates with the majority and lasts avery long time is secondary. The fact that many people like a work or not isn't what defines literature. Sometimes they do sometimes they don't. There are some piece of literature I don't like. I never liked Flaubert for instance, but I wouldn't say it isn't literature. And there are books I like while I know they don't belong to literature.
And who should be the judge? Someone with multiple degrees or a PHd in art, literature, or what have you? Or a guy who barely has a high school diploma, but picked say - Huckleberry Finn and had an epiphany?
I think that some people are literary people, other aren't. It isn't a matter of rules or of Academy's approval or awards like Pulitzer.
I think that if you really like words, if you are a man/woman of letters, if you have that sensitivity and that aesthetic sense(and yes education can train them, but there are very educated people who would never feel it)you can recognize literature and tell it part from simple books. You may never be able to make literature yourself but you can recognize it.
But reading books that aren't literature is okay too. There's nothing wrong in enjoying them just like there's nothing wrong in enjoying catchy and dancing hits on radio or mariachis' songs.
Do have a question for you - do you consider the Nancy Drew Mysteries written by multiple writers under one psuedonyme, literature or fiction?
First off, I don't understand the alternative. Why do you contrast literature with fiction (it's funny btw because in French in the 17th Century "littérature" was rather derogative and meant "invention" or "verbiage")? It seems very bizarre to me. Literature includes fictional works and non-fictional works as well, and some books that aren't fictions aren't necessarily literature.
Secondly, I haven't read the Nancy Drew Mysteries, so I can't tell. But I could say that for instance that I don't consider Harlan Corben's novels literature. Same with Herbert Lieberman's crime novels yet I enjoyed very much most of them. James Ellroy, however, wrote books that I consider literature.
It isn't because we are deeply moved or entertained by a written work that it has to be called literature as if we'd need to justifuy our inclination. Some books of exceptional intellectual calibre, I'm thinking of essays on various subjects, are thoughts-provoking, inspiring, but they aren't literature for all that.
But there may be a cultural gap between the way Americans see literature and the way it's considered in France, methinks.
Re: How do we define art?
Date: 2006-05-24 07:44 pm (UTC)Re: How do we define art?
Date: 2006-05-24 11:08 pm (UTC)I'm on the fence on this one. I do know what rates as literature and what doesn't - usually it's a book that takes me five months to read, each paragraph has to be read twice to make sense, and I hate it but once it's over I miss the damn thing like I'd miss a favorite pet that died on me and can never forget it. Literature is something I can't read fast. I always remember it. And it varies on whether or not I enjoyed it.
That said people argue. And do not argree anymore than they agree on which religion is the right one, which president to vote for, which language should be the official language - people come to think of it, agree on very little. We compromise. So it's not suprising they don't agree on literary works.
I do not think of Ayn Rand as a literary writer. Or any of her books as literature. Nor James Michener. I do see Voltair as literary and Stendhal and
James Joyce. Why? The story, the words, the style, the reason they wrote it, all of those things put together. Ursula Le Quinn, who I find unreadable at times, is literary. Robert Heinlein is not. Philip K Dick is. Harlan Ellison is. James Butcher is not. Terry Prachett is not. Neil Gaiman would like to be but is not. The woman who wrote Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrel is.
Do I care? Not really. I've never been picky about what I read or watch or listen to. I'm fairly eclectic in my tastes.
Re: How do we define art?
Date: 2006-05-25 01:33 pm (UTC)Can you analyze it from more than one perspective? Do you get something different from it each time you look at it? Do the flaws add to the work or take something away from it? Is the technique mastered? Or is the artist overwhelmed or struggling with technique - ie technique masters the artist.
For a piece that contains characters and a story - is the plot, characters and story all given equal time and attention? Do they work together as a whole? Or is one forgotten or discarded for another?
BTVS - works as "literary" work because while flawed, the flaws add to not take away from the work. There's more than just plot and characters.
It operates on many layers. And each part of the work is given depth.
Bones is not a literary work. Because the flaws do hurt it. It can not work on multiple layers. And it does add twists on old themes, so much as repeat them. House is actually more literary than Bones.
Now, the question is after doing that, which I pose to myself as well as you - is really, how much of this is subjective and how much is objective and to what degree if any does it matter?
(Keeping in mind I'm in an existentialist frame of mind at the moment and don't think very much matters at all.)
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Date: 2006-05-24 03:48 pm (UTC)As you said, Irina was the biggest disappointment. One of the most intriguing, darkly ambiguous female characters in TV history reduced to a power-mad villain. Sad. And I honestly expected better from Sloane, Irina and the writers than a standard spy apocalypse of missiles raining down on London and Washington. Where's the subtlety? The elegance? The surprise?
All the Syd flashbacks during the finale led us to believe that Syd had finally realized spying was her chosen profession, she was damn good at saving the world, and she would never quit. We flash forward after the death of Irina (glass? AGAIN?), and--Syd has quit the business. Yeah, she takes the occasional assignment from Dix, but that's obviously not her priority anymore. Sooooo....what was the deal with all that set-up during the rest of the show? Were Pinkner and Goddard paying attention at all?
Jack got his moment of revenge on Arvin, but I'm disappointed that Jack Bristow, master strategist, didn't think it all through. Sloane could still be dug out by Sark and/or any number of loony Rambaldi followers. He'd be free, and Jack? Jack would still be dead. The writers were going for poetic justice, but it smells more like a set-up for ALIAS: TNG, when Isabelle and the Flinkman boys go after the resurrected Sloane...
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Date: 2006-05-24 05:35 pm (UTC)Of course wasn't as emotionally invested in the finale. Actually sort of watched it while I played on my computer and drew. So did not focus on it. I'd more or less given up on Alias last season, when it did it's first retcon and tried to copy the Femme Nikita format almost down to the letter, jettisoning what had appealed to me about it at the start which was Syd's double-life, her relationships with her friends/family vs. the spy gig - heavy focus on the former. When they jettisoned the former - it became La Femme Nikita, which was better in some respects.
Certainly had a more satisfying and less cobbled together ending - not happy, but the genre Nikita was in - noir/espionage/sci-fi al la Prisoner - doesn't tend to lead to that.
For me, there wasn't much there in either the finale for Alias or this season to hold my interest. Sloan seemed to have regressed back to the character he'd been at the beginning of Season 2, Irina likewise. Almost as if there had been no character development in the intervening years.
Making him immortal was cheesy, but also fitting since Sloan finds out towards the end, that being immortal is pointless if he can't keep his loved ones and is all alone. He's lost his beloved wife, daughter, and protegee (Syd). I think that may have been underlined better than it was without the cave-in, the cave-in/buried alive aspect sort of overshadows that theme.
The flashbacks were not supposed to highlight Syd's realization that she's the perfect spy in a positive light. We know this by the fact that her daughter looks exactly like Syd and discovers she has the same skills - with the scarey music in the background. They wanted to state that her skills were chilling and would lead her down a horrid path.
Note the interslicing of the flashback of her Dad telling her that her mother would have wanted her to leave Credit Dauphne - focus on her studies and Syd fighting to the death with her mother, or Syd flashing back on becoming a field agent with Sloan, as Sloan is holding a gun on them and about to kill them. The life of a spy/saving the world is not a life you'd want, the show appears to be stating. (It echoes the message in Mission Impossible III - which states the same thing, sort of.) But the message is clearly a foggy one and not stated well.
No, to be honest, I think Alias as a series lost it's way way back in Season 3 and never quite recaptured the thread of the story. Demonstrating once again how hard it is to write a serial tv series. Few can keep the thread alive past two or three seasons.