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shadowkat ([personal profile] shadowkat) wrote2013-07-21 02:50 pm
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The Perfect Buffy Marathon List? & Happy Books...the light breezy reads that require little thought

I just flipped on The Buffy Marathon on Syfy...and the speech I landed on was..."and then there's people, millions of people, like happy meals on legs.." hence the above title reference. The series looks sort of low-budget in 2013, with the square screen and the lack of digital filming. But the writing is whip-smart. Just the right edge of wit married to pathos. Just in case, you may decide to take it too seriously, the writers always throw in a joke or two to ensure you don't.

Although the marathon choices are rather interesting - almost as if someone voted on which were the best episodes of the entire series, or the most plot-worthy, and only chose those for the marathon.

If you are curious here they are:

1)Welcome To The Hellmouth
2)The Harvest
3)Angel
4)Becoming - Part 1
5)Becoming - Part 2
6)Faith, Hope And Trick
7)Lovers Walk
8)The Wish
9)Bad Girls
10)Doppelgangland
11)Graduation Day - Part 1
12) Graduation Day - Part 2
13)Hush
14)Buffy Vs. Dracula
15)Fool For Love
16)Crush
17)The Body
18)Once More, With Feeling
19)Normal Again
20) Chosen

Clearly whomever did this list was not a fan of S7, S6, S4, or S2 for that matter. Yet quite adored S3 (actually S3 was obviously their favorite) and S5, with S1 coming in 3rd. No love for S7 though. Then again it is admittedly plot/mythology specific.

This is not the list I'd have chosen for a 20 episode marathon. Then again I'm struggling to figure out what list I would do. A Non-Plot oriented one for people who know the series and don't care, or plot-oriented? This is actually a lot harder than I thought. Buffy has arguably about 15-20 excellent episodes, but it's such a serial that you sort of have to put the not so great one's in there to figure out what is going on.


1. Welcome to the Hellmouth
2. Harvest
3. Angel
4. Lie to Me
5. Surpise
6. Innocence
7. Passion
8.Becoming Part I
9. Becoming Part II
10. Lover's Walk
11. The Wish
12. Dopplegangeland
13. Graduation Day I
14. Graduation Day II
15. HUSH
16. RESTLESS
17. Fool For Love
18. The Body
19. Once More With Feeling
20. Chosen

See? Hard.

Or Take II

1. Angel
2. School Hard
3. Lie to Me
4. Becoming I
5. Becoming Part II
6. Lover's Walk
7. The Wish
8. Dopplegangland
9. Graduation Day I
10. Graduation Day II
11. HUSH
12. This Year's Girl
13. Who Are You
14. Restless
15. Fool for Love
16. The Body
17. Once More with Feeling
18. Beneath You
19. Conversations with Dead People
20. Chosen


or Take III - the 15-20 arguably excellent/memorable episodes:


1. Lie to Me
2. Innocence
3. Passion
4. Becoming I
5. Becoming II
6. Lover's Walk
7. Dopplegangland
8. Hush
9. This Year's Girl
10. Who Are You
11. Restless
12. Fool for Love
13. Crush
14. The Body
15. Once More with Feeling
16. Dead Things
17. Normal Again
18. Beneath Me
19. Conversations with Dead People
20. Lies My Parents Told Me


I don't know. Glad I don't have to do that for a living.

Anyhow...back when I was watching Buffy in the late 1990s, during my gig at the evil library reference company...I had the following conversation with a work colleague/friend on the way home from work. We often rode the subway home together, having long chats about a variety of topics. Not Buffy - she considered it beneath her. Cultural dissonance exists in all climes.

Me: I can't seem to read anything. I get a few pages in and my attention wanders. What is wrong with me?
CW: Your working hard, brain is filled with info, can't fit more in. Plus stress. What you need is...a HAPPY BOOK.
Me: Didn't realize book's had emotions.
CW: No, I mean something light, stress reducing, fluffy, you don't have to remember, keep track of characters, can just enjoy. A light breezy read. (PAUSE) Have you ever read PD Wodehouse?

Now coming up with a list of light breezy books that aren't violent and are well-written isn't easy. Also by different authors. So far...I've come up with the following, but I've read them all:

* PD Wodehouse's Jeeves and Wooster
* William Goldman's Princess Bride (although not sure it qualifies)
* Harry Potter (again not sure it qualifies and a children's book)

Not sure of anything else. Jane Austen is almost too deep as is Louisa May Alcott. Terry Prachett is too punny and requires attention to foot-notes. Mark Twain requires too much concentration - he's a precise writer.

And I'm not talking about "airplane books" - ie the thriller or mystery of the week series or Gerogette Heyer. I mean fluffy books, that are witty. Are there any? I know there are for kids and young adults, which may explain the sudden influx of adult readers of young adult novels. But I burned out that genre a while ago.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-07-22 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
So...arguably the Worst episode list? OR the most divisive and controversial?
If so...

Controversial - on the boards:

1. The Pack
2. Reptile Boy
3. Go Fish
4. Dead Man's Party
5. Amends
6. Doomed
7. Where the Wild Things Are
8. Family
9. I Was Made To Love You
10. Spiral
11. Wrecked
12. Gone
13. Dead Things
14. As You Were
15. Seeing Red
16. Grave
17. Showtime
18. Get it Done
19. Lies My Parents Told Me
20. Empty Places

List of the worst episodes?

1. I Robot...You Jane
2. Out of Sight Out of Mind
3. Inca Mummy Girl
4. Reptile Boy
5. Some Assembly Required
6. Bad Eggs
7. Go Fish
8. Beauty and the Beasts
9. Amends
10.Beer Bad
11. Where the Wild Things Are
12. Family
13. Spiral
14. All the Way
15. Wrecked
16. Older and Far Away
17. As You Were
18. Showtime
19. First Date
20. Empty Places

[identity profile] sophist.livejournal.com 2013-07-22 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
A few other candidates I see mentioned a lot as "worst": Teacher's Pet, Living Conditions, A New Man, Gone, Doublemeat Palace, Two to Go.
Edited 2013-07-22 22:51 (UTC)

[identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com 2013-07-23 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Doublemeat Palace,

Another one for my "people hate this episode? Really?" I mean, I love Buffy and that costume makes me cringe but have I been in those situations, with those stupid "teamwork" posters and sterile breakrooms and absurd interviews? Absolutely. I thought it was an incisive portrait of that sort of soul-sucking employment in modern America.

I'll add to that list the aforementioned IRYJ, Beer Bad, (Living Conditions and A New man are considered worsts as well?), OAFA, Wrecked (for the Buffy and Spike, not Willow). I don't really hate WTWTA but I haven't watched it a second time so I didn't love it either.

[identity profile] sophist.livejournal.com 2013-07-23 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
People who worked in the fast food industry all loved it. I never did, so I couldn't really relate to it. I get the idea, but it didn't resonate emotionally because of my lack of experience.

But yeah, it got a LOT of criticism.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-07-23 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Actually people who did work fast food hated it too. (Why? Penis Monster...that's why.) Also it annoyed a lot of Spike and Xander fans.

It ends up on a lot of Worst Lists.

[identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com 2013-07-23 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
I've not worked in fast food but I have worked in retail, in casinos, telemarketing call centers, "inside sales". etc and its very little different.

I'm not sure what the basis for the criticism is - except for maybe the penis monster?

[identity profile] sophist.livejournal.com 2013-07-23 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the penis monster. But lots of people didn't like it because (1) it was depressing; and (2) they didn't get the humor. Xander fans hated it because it made him look clueless.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-07-23 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
That and nothing much happens. People were bored.

Also Xander comes across as a bit of an ass, as does Dawn, which annoyed people who shipped those characters (not together, as characters).

And yes, the penis monster.

[identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com 2013-07-23 12:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Also Xander comes across as a bit of an ass, as does Dawn

Nothing new there.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-07-23 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
I think Owen put those episodes on his list.

I was going to put Teacher's Pet and Living Conditions, but couldn't remember the name of it.

Ted is another one that gets on worst lists as does the one...with the Freddy Krueger monster...can't remember the name of it - it's a stand-a-lone in S2.
Phases does too. And so does HIM. Lots of people hate Lies My Parents Told Me (it worked for me because I got to see DB Woodside get the crap kicked out of him... plus Spike flashbacks, win-win.) Normal Again is fairly controversial. As is Dead Things.

Listening to Fear, Buffy vs. Dracula, Shadow, Into the Woods, I Was Made to Love You, Family, Triangle, the second to last episode of S5 before the Gift where Willow ventures into Buffy's head...all are on worst lists that I've seen.

[identity profile] sophist.livejournal.com 2013-07-23 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Killed by Death is the one you're thinking of. The S5 ep was The Weight of The World.

I think that every single episode has viewers who hated it. I guess that's inevitable.

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2013-07-23 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
True. But some had more criticism than others. I know, I've done a lot of polls and queries and memes on the topic. The majority of fans hate the ones I listed on those lists and above, and the majority of fans like the ones I listed in the first post.