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Have mixed feelings about labor union strikes - mostly because in some not all instances the strike hurts people who are what can best called innocent bystanders - who stand to gain nothing by the strike and everything to lose. On the other hand, a strike is the worker's last means of resistence. Without the ability to strike - workers are defenseless.
In the WGA Strike - the unseen victims are not just the audience (who really only loses another means of entertainment) but the crew, production assistants, and non-contract players who are being laid-off due to the strike. For the Broadway stage-hands strike - the victims are the restaurants, hotels, ticket takers, and other people involved in the show. And in the Transit Workers Strike - it was basically everyone. Some people found a silver lining in the conflict, such as my friend Wales who shared cabs with people and had great conversations, while others died waiting for ambulances or fire trucks, or laid-off from work unable to get there. Your opinion regarding a strike may have a great deal to do with your own background and experience.
A rambling History of Strikes and Protests in General
The world has an interesting history regarding strikes. Italy and France have been shut down on numerous occassions due to transportation strikes. And back in 1981 Ronald Regan handled the air traffic controllers strike by firing the controllers. At the time, the action was effective and changed American Labor Union History. Prior to 1981, 300 strikes happened each year, now less than 30 due to the fact that employers now had the ability to fire strikers and hire new people to fill the jobs. Regan did the same thing Bloomberg and Guilani did in New York City in regards to the Transit Workers Union - threatened to fine or fire the striking workers, stating what they were doing was illegal under the law. In NY - that law is called the Taylor Law. The TCW (Transit workers union) is still paying for violating that law and has sworn never to violate it again as they did in 2005 for three days.
Don't worry, the WGA strike does not fall under this law or any laws similar to it. True the strike could cost the country millions of dollars in revenue not to mention lots of jobs - but it is not dangerous and does not pose a threat to national security or safety in quite the same way that the air traffic controllers and transit union strikes did.
But, are strikes or protests of this sort really effective? Guess it depends on the strike. The Columbia University Hunger Strike Against Racism and to Promote Ethnic Diversity certainly has been. As were two graduate student strikes last year to unionize. And last year - students on MySpace and FaceBook organized a nationwide walkout/strike to protest the war in Iraq - Iraq Protest - which while not necessarily effective did demonstrate to the terror of many authorities how fast people could organize using the internet. And of course there have been Teamsters strikes, airline strikes, and autoworkers strikes that have managed to obtain needed results.
As a worker -a strike is your last mode of resistence or weapon. You have hit a brick wall. Realize you have no power outside of what you bring to the party. The only way to win? Remove it. The first Labor Union strike in American History (according to Wiki) - was The Polish Craftsman Strike in Jamestown in the British Colonies in 1619 And according to Wikipedia strikes date back to Egypt.
Strikes and The Entertainment Industry
But what about Hollywood and the Entertainment Industry? Before the Unions - Hollywood and Broadway were run by studios and theater owners. Actors, Writers, Muscians, Directors, and Crew were slaves to the studios and the syndicate - which in many cases was Mafia run. They had to do whatever films or shows the studios/syndicate wanted regardless of what it was. Back in those early years, strikes often turned violent. Sameul Goldwyn, the head of MGM, was rumored to remark that he would mow down strikers as they picketed. Amongst the first strikes was the Actors Equity Strike of 1919 - seeking an end to the dominance of the Theatrical Syndicate. SAG, the Screen Actors Guild, was started in 1933 to eliminate grueling working conditions for actors without contracts. Major Strikes by the SAG include the 1980s Emmy Boycott - the only actor to attend was Powers Booth. The strike was successful by the way, more successful than the WGA strike of 1988, the SAG got 32.25% increase in salaries and 4.2% share for movies mad for pay tv. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_Actors_Guild for more information on SAG.
The WGA's history is a bit more complicated. They began shortly after SGA with the Screen Writers Guild. Not to be confused with the Screen Playwrites dominated by studios. Then somewhere along the way the Writers Guild of America West and Writers Guild of America, East were formed. Prior to that we had the Television Writers of America and the ScreenWriters of America, it was not until the 1970's that the two joined forces. For a complete history on this go here:
http://wy.essortment.com/historywriters_rjuh.htm
The WGA history much like SAG has hits and misses. They lost in 1988, by giving up on the home video market. The 1988 strike was the longest in history and lasted five months. It was about residuals for hour-long tv shows, and reruns shown in syndication in foreign countries. It outlasted the 1960's strike by one day and resulted in the early deaths of Moonlighting and Kate & Allie. 1960's made huge strides in obtaining health care benefits. Go here for a brief history of WGA strike gains :
Http://unitedhollywood.blogspot.com/2007/11/brief-history-of-strike-gains.html
and go here for information on 2001 near strike and on-going issues with internet residuals:
http://www.convergenceculture.org/weblog/2007/11/wga_strike_in_context_a_brief.php
In the last three strikes, including this one, the main issue is residuals.
So what the heck are residuals and why are the writers so worried about them?
Basically residuals are money that is paid above the normal salary for work that does not come under the normal contract. For example - those websodes that you saw for BSG on the internet. OR when a work is redistributed in another format or medium after you've been paid for it such as reruns, streaming video, and itune downloads. Residuals are how writers pay mortagages, groceries, and put their kids through school - they are also how they survive in between gigs. But don't take my word for it -
Go here for a great explanation on residuals and the fight for residuals since the 1940s.
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=264595
and this little piece on YouTube explains clearly from the WGA perspective what residuals mean, why they are fighting for them, and why they need them so desperately:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ55Ir2jCxk&eurl=http://www.rumorsdaily.com/tag/wga/
(By the way http://www.rumorsdaily.com is a great site for any one who is a fan of the Daily Show and the Daily Show's writers.)
Why should you care? I mean, unless you watch tv or movies?
Good question. It comes down to worker security in a world that is becoming increasingly insecure. Check the news for the number of lay-offs, home foreclosures, and unemployment figures. In Kansas City, Mo - it got so bad they were auctioning off people's homes. Workers have no rights in our current environment - benefits are being reduced daily due to the fact that there are more workers than jobs. Our health insurance is going up yearly, pensions are being cut, and our jobs are being outsourced to foreign countries. People are struggling. And the corporations are charging more and more. Movies have gone up to $11.50 in NYC. Broadway shows are now between $75-250 a ticket. People download files off the net to offset the cost and only tourists can afford most Broadway ticket prices.
In this world, the worker has little voice. Management can fire them at will to appease stockholders, bankers, or cover costs. CEO's and corporate heads make billions of dollars in our world, they have more houses than they know what to do with. The gap between the rich and poor is widening at a frightening pace. With the middle class disappearing bit by bit.
The Writers in Hollywood are workers, middle class laborers, who struggle to create a product. Sure about five percent make more than most of us can imagine, but the majority barely crunch out $20,000 a year if that. They have 13-week contracts, with a month notice of cancellation, and get paid per script. Most are freelance or non-contract workers. Also without writers - we do not have books, newspapers, magazines, blogs, tv shows, movies, comic books, cartoons, lyrics, or crossword puzzles. Most of us online are writers - or we wouldn't be online. We don't make any money at it and we do envy to a degree those that do, but if we don't support them - how can we hope to ever make money at it ourselves? Also, think about the others affected, the men and women who are being laid-off by the studios, whose jobs depend on writers being able to creat stories, who are supporting the writers for this reason.
What can you do? Sign the petition on unitedhollywood.com and if you aren't afraid of pay pal (like me) send a box of pencils via the same site. It's not much, but at least it is something.
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Have mixed feelings about labor union strikes - mostly because in some not all instances the strike hurts people who are what can best called innocent bystanders - who stand to gain nothing by the strike and everything to lose. On the other hand, a strike is the worker's last means of resistence. Without the ability to strike - workers are defenseless.
In the WGA Strike - the unseen victims are not just the audience (who really only loses another means of entertainment) but the crew, production assistants, and non-contract players who are being laid-off due to the strike. For the Broadway stage-hands strike - the victims are the restaurants, hotels, ticket takers, and other people involved in the show. And in the Transit Workers Strike - it was basically everyone. Some people found a silver lining in the conflict, such as my friend Wales who shared cabs with people and had great conversations, while others died waiting for ambulances or fire trucks, or laid-off from work unable to get there. Your opinion regarding a strike may have a great deal to do with your own background and experience.
A rambling History of Strikes and Protests in General
The world has an interesting history regarding strikes. Italy and France have been shut down on numerous occassions due to transportation strikes. And back in 1981 Ronald Regan handled the air traffic controllers strike by firing the controllers. At the time, the action was effective and changed American Labor Union History. Prior to 1981, 300 strikes happened each year, now less than 30 due to the fact that employers now had the ability to fire strikers and hire new people to fill the jobs. Regan did the same thing Bloomberg and Guilani did in New York City in regards to the Transit Workers Union - threatened to fine or fire the striking workers, stating what they were doing was illegal under the law. In NY - that law is called the Taylor Law. The TCW (Transit workers union) is still paying for violating that law and has sworn never to violate it again as they did in 2005 for three days.
Don't worry, the WGA strike does not fall under this law or any laws similar to it. True the strike could cost the country millions of dollars in revenue not to mention lots of jobs - but it is not dangerous and does not pose a threat to national security or safety in quite the same way that the air traffic controllers and transit union strikes did.
But, are strikes or protests of this sort really effective? Guess it depends on the strike. The Columbia University Hunger Strike Against Racism and to Promote Ethnic Diversity certainly has been. As were two graduate student strikes last year to unionize. And last year - students on MySpace and FaceBook organized a nationwide walkout/strike to protest the war in Iraq - Iraq Protest - which while not necessarily effective did demonstrate to the terror of many authorities how fast people could organize using the internet. And of course there have been Teamsters strikes, airline strikes, and autoworkers strikes that have managed to obtain needed results.
As a worker -a strike is your last mode of resistence or weapon. You have hit a brick wall. Realize you have no power outside of what you bring to the party. The only way to win? Remove it. The first Labor Union strike in American History (according to Wiki) - was The Polish Craftsman Strike in Jamestown in the British Colonies in 1619 And according to Wikipedia strikes date back to Egypt.
Strikes and The Entertainment Industry
But what about Hollywood and the Entertainment Industry? Before the Unions - Hollywood and Broadway were run by studios and theater owners. Actors, Writers, Muscians, Directors, and Crew were slaves to the studios and the syndicate - which in many cases was Mafia run. They had to do whatever films or shows the studios/syndicate wanted regardless of what it was. Back in those early years, strikes often turned violent. Sameul Goldwyn, the head of MGM, was rumored to remark that he would mow down strikers as they picketed. Amongst the first strikes was the Actors Equity Strike of 1919 - seeking an end to the dominance of the Theatrical Syndicate. SAG, the Screen Actors Guild, was started in 1933 to eliminate grueling working conditions for actors without contracts. Major Strikes by the SAG include the 1980s Emmy Boycott - the only actor to attend was Powers Booth. The strike was successful by the way, more successful than the WGA strike of 1988, the SAG got 32.25% increase in salaries and 4.2% share for movies mad for pay tv. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_Actors_Guild for more information on SAG.
The WGA's history is a bit more complicated. They began shortly after SGA with the Screen Writers Guild. Not to be confused with the Screen Playwrites dominated by studios. Then somewhere along the way the Writers Guild of America West and Writers Guild of America, East were formed. Prior to that we had the Television Writers of America and the ScreenWriters of America, it was not until the 1970's that the two joined forces. For a complete history on this go here:
http://wy.essortment.com/historywriters_rjuh.htm
The WGA history much like SAG has hits and misses. They lost in 1988, by giving up on the home video market. The 1988 strike was the longest in history and lasted five months. It was about residuals for hour-long tv shows, and reruns shown in syndication in foreign countries. It outlasted the 1960's strike by one day and resulted in the early deaths of Moonlighting and Kate & Allie. 1960's made huge strides in obtaining health care benefits. Go here for a brief history of WGA strike gains :
Http://unitedhollywood.blogspot.com/2007/11/brief-history-of-strike-gains.html
and go here for information on 2001 near strike and on-going issues with internet residuals:
http://www.convergenceculture.org/weblog/2007/11/wga_strike_in_context_a_brief.php
In the last three strikes, including this one, the main issue is residuals.
So what the heck are residuals and why are the writers so worried about them?
Basically residuals are money that is paid above the normal salary for work that does not come under the normal contract. For example - those websodes that you saw for BSG on the internet. OR when a work is redistributed in another format or medium after you've been paid for it such as reruns, streaming video, and itune downloads. Residuals are how writers pay mortagages, groceries, and put their kids through school - they are also how they survive in between gigs. But don't take my word for it -
Go here for a great explanation on residuals and the fight for residuals since the 1940s.
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=264595
and this little piece on YouTube explains clearly from the WGA perspective what residuals mean, why they are fighting for them, and why they need them so desperately:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ55Ir2jCxk&eurl=http://www.rumorsdaily.com/tag/wga/
(By the way http://www.rumorsdaily.com is a great site for any one who is a fan of the Daily Show and the Daily Show's writers.)
Why should you care? I mean, unless you watch tv or movies?
Good question. It comes down to worker security in a world that is becoming increasingly insecure. Check the news for the number of lay-offs, home foreclosures, and unemployment figures. In Kansas City, Mo - it got so bad they were auctioning off people's homes. Workers have no rights in our current environment - benefits are being reduced daily due to the fact that there are more workers than jobs. Our health insurance is going up yearly, pensions are being cut, and our jobs are being outsourced to foreign countries. People are struggling. And the corporations are charging more and more. Movies have gone up to $11.50 in NYC. Broadway shows are now between $75-250 a ticket. People download files off the net to offset the cost and only tourists can afford most Broadway ticket prices.
In this world, the worker has little voice. Management can fire them at will to appease stockholders, bankers, or cover costs. CEO's and corporate heads make billions of dollars in our world, they have more houses than they know what to do with. The gap between the rich and poor is widening at a frightening pace. With the middle class disappearing bit by bit.
The Writers in Hollywood are workers, middle class laborers, who struggle to create a product. Sure about five percent make more than most of us can imagine, but the majority barely crunch out $20,000 a year if that. They have 13-week contracts, with a month notice of cancellation, and get paid per script. Most are freelance or non-contract workers. Also without writers - we do not have books, newspapers, magazines, blogs, tv shows, movies, comic books, cartoons, lyrics, or crossword puzzles. Most of us online are writers - or we wouldn't be online. We don't make any money at it and we do envy to a degree those that do, but if we don't support them - how can we hope to ever make money at it ourselves? Also, think about the others affected, the men and women who are being laid-off by the studios, whose jobs depend on writers being able to creat stories, who are supporting the writers for this reason.
What can you do? Sign the petition on unitedhollywood.com and if you aren't afraid of pay pal (like me) send a box of pencils via the same site. It's not much, but at least it is something.
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Date: 2007-11-19 02:05 am (UTC)My understanding is that protections for authors and playwrites date back centuries, so that publishers and producers cannot become rich off of someone else's creation. That there is some kind of automatic copyright which is understood or actually legislated which protects the writer. Hollywood never wanted to accept that, and fought it on many fronts, but eventually residuals was a kind of compensation for creative effort.
The writers made a huge mistake in giving away most of their 'residual' on video (now DVD) sales, and they so they are fighting tooth and nail to not let that become the template for the 'new media'.
It is terrible that so many people are being laid off, but I do feel that the writers were correct to refuse to work without a contract. The Networks (AKA AMPTP) already saw them as weak, spineless, and replaceable, and this becomes the only way to show some power.
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Date: 2007-11-19 02:21 am (UTC)In addition: The lay-offs are not necessarily just a result of the strike, although management is stating they are - partly as a tatic to chip away at the support. It is worth noting that the people who have been laid off - are in support of the strike and many have go on the picket lines.
Strikes are nasty affairs that no one likes, but as I noted above, are often necessary to get needed benefits. If they writers had not gone on strike in 1952 - they would not have gotten health care. If they had not gone on strike in 1988 - they would not have gotten paid for reruns, foreign syndication, and movies for paid tv such as HBO and Showtime.
But, what many people do not understand about strikes is everyone pays a price, not just the people going on strike. It is NOT just the writers, actors or directors who will pay for this. It is not just you missing your favorite shows. It is tens of thousands of crew, grips, craftsmen, extras, non-contracted, non-union members who are also paying the cost.
Also this is the first of three planned strikes in Hollywood. The next two are slated for June if nothing changes - those are SAG and the DGA. IF they come to pass, California will sink into an unprecedented economic crisis.
Copyright sounds like a great solution - but it does not help the DGA and SAG.
The only solution is for the studios to come up with a fair residual formula regarding the distribution of content on the internet and new meda platforms for all concerned. It may be difficult, but it is far from impossible. Companies handling interactive video games have already come with models as have distributors of text and image content.
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Date: 2007-11-19 02:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-11-19 02:40 pm (UTC)and you are absolutely right: copyright isn't going to work - for a lot of reasons - but I wish it was mentioned more - the studios/networks (ie the AMPTP) seem to think that they give residuals out of the goodness of their hearts and that they are well within their rights to withhold them.
Every ad and article and statement coming from the AMPTP infuriates me, they put out half truths and double talk and think they have fooled everyone. Their contempt for the writers and public is astonishing, these guys really do think they are the 'smartest guys in the room'.
sigh.
So I'm buying pencils, and I've been writing letters to everyone I can think of.
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Date: 2007-11-19 08:25 pm (UTC)I haven't seen any of the articles, ads, or statements coming from the AMPTP, thank heavens. Managed to avoid that - which I guess tells you how prevalent and effective they are. I'm telling you, Al Gore is right, the most accessible medium right now is the internet. Not magazines, not newspapers, not television - but the net. That's what the tv writers have finally figured out...we can use the internet to get our word out, organize our fans, and as well as a weapon to get what we want. It's ironic - considering that the fight is over residuals from the internet and other sources of new media.
That said, I've worked in and around the entertainment biz and known enough people who have as well (on the biz side of the equation not the creative) that I can understand the AMPTP's pov without reading their propaganda and rhetoric. Their negotiator was interviewed a while back in something or other and he basically said - that the problem was if they gave into the writers, what about the DGA and SAG? Everyone wants a piece of our pie and there aren't enough slices to go around. Which is a problem if you think of the pie as being relatively small and the cost of baking it huge. (ie. 60 million for 22 episodes of LOST: 70 million potential profit before taxes - the EBIT -yes, I've been reading an accounting book.)
Well, duh. That's the nature of the biz. Always has been. Splitting the revenue.
But it can be done. It won't be easy, but nothing is. I know I worked in two companies that had to figure out how to divide their internet based profit amongst a large and somewhat diverse group of providers. Granted it often meant that everyone got ten cents. But hey...that ten cents does add up over time. And in the film/tv industry - it's not like the internet is their only venue. They have : mobile (wireless), internet, tv, movie theater, DVD (retail), home video, airline/hotel, and train/bus. Revenue sources? Advertising, subscriber, purchase,
and ticket price.
The WGA is asking for residuals from paid internet downloads (itunes, AmazonUnboxed, Tivo) and advertising supported streaming videos (Hula, network sites). They gave up asking for increased residuals for DVD (they wanted 4.2% apparently and are only getting 2% or less). That was removed from the table in the hopes they would get a percentage of net revenues. So really? They aren't asking for all that much. It would be a lot cheaper for all concerned if the AMPTP bent a bit on this point and agreed to give the writers a percentage of the internet profits. But, I'm afraid they are too busy worrying about their bottomline to grasp that fact and too convinced that they can survive a strike better than the WGA can.
(It's almost as if they are afraid to give in, because they think it will send the wrong message. Much like the MTA was afraid to give in the TCW for fear it would send the message that their strike worked.)
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Date: 2007-11-19 08:52 pm (UTC)back in 1988 they were fighting for cable, syndication and other pressing problems, so they went along with the network/studio plea to 'temporarily' take less on home video
(they would normally get 4.2% for aired TV, syndication, reruns, whatever, and I thought they amount they accepted as temporary was .3%, 1/3 of a penny).
So 19 years later the networks/studios want to roll it back even further on 'new media', where they can replay whole shows on line for free for 6 months and THEN they'll give that 1/3 of a penny....
Such a deal.
And they are surprised and hurt that people perceive them as greedy:
http://tvdecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/19/strike-news-writers-gain-pr-advantage/
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Date: 2007-11-19 09:58 pm (UTC)Why did the WGA negotiators give this up, you ask?
Well, Ken Levine answered that question - apparently the AMPTP pulled the old Charlie Brown and the Football tatic.
What happened was this:
In a negotiation - often you give up something to get something. You NEVER get everything you want. Both people want to leave the table feeling cool or as if they won - especially in an adversarial negotiation which unfortunately is most Labor disputes.
So...the AMPTP said to the WGA - look we'll come up with an internet formula to split the residuals with you but you have to give up something.
The WGA...okay, we'll give up the increase in DVD revenue. (Sounds stupid doesn't it? It's not. DVD revenue isn't going to be as big as the internet rev. Also they can fight for that later. Think about it - why would you buy a DVD if you can download the tv show off the net onto your TIVO and cut a DVD for free? It's why they gave up the Home Video rev in the 80's. Should they have given it up? That's not for us to decide we aren't in the midst of it. But my guess is they chose to do it because they thought that they'd get a bigger slice of the net revenue - which was what they really cared about. The risk in playing it that way - is they showed their hand. The WGA told the other side what they cared about the most. That can either work for you or against you - when you aren't in the power position in a negotiation. But that's why it happened.)
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Date: 2007-11-19 10:17 pm (UTC)It really supports my point above - about how the writers have discovered the best promotional source out there - the internet.
The studios can't compete with the writer's blogs, writer's fanboards, and YouTube. It's not like magazines or newspapers or even tv - where the guy with the most money wins. (ie - the guy who can pay for the ad space.)
Back in the 1980s - the WGA couldn't get any support. No one knew what they were doing or why. They couldn't afford to take out those big ads and the net was not really in existence - except possibly for true computer geeks.
Now....ah, if you know how to write well and persuasively, better yet, if you can figure out how to shoot videos and download cool photos - you are golden on the net. The information is fast, free, and widely accessible. The internet scares and excites corporations for that reason.
The article above underlines that fact.
As an aside - from the studios perspective they aren't greedy, think about it - they put up the money for a tv series or film, pay everyone for the work rendered, (and I mean everyone down to the non-contract/non-union workers), eat the cost if the creation flops and for every success there are numerous flops. That said, their unwillingness to share a portion of the net revenue is not helping them. They are costing themselves a lot more money not giving into that request.
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Date: 2007-11-19 10:49 pm (UTC)It is hard for me to believe that it isn't greed when the public statements by so many of the network CEOs were saying things like they had stock piled scripts and they could starve the writers into submission (okay, that isn't an exact quote...but man, that is totally what they were saying between the lines!). They all end up looking like Mr. Burns of the Simpsons, or some sweat shop owner.... I get that that may not be true, but every day more things come out that reinforce that view.
And you are so right about the AMPTP making mistakes: they paid big bucks for full page ads in Variety, which no one outside of Hollywood (and some NYC offices) ever see. They should have been advertising in People magazine or TV Guide if they were trying to reach their viewers! The videos coming out in the last two weeks have been amazing: some are clear and informative, others are hilarious, and all are geared to get the public behind the WGA.
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Date: 2007-11-21 01:42 am (UTC)Oh, I'm not saying the AMPTP isn't greedy...but I don't think from their pov they are. In their pov - the WGA is greedy.
Studio heads - most of them, worked their way up to the top. Treated like shit along the way. Almost going bankrupt more than once. And spending a good portion of their time brownnosing and kowtowing to bankers/shareholders and investors. If something goes wrong? It's their head on the proverbial platter not the writers/actors/etc.
They see the WGA, SAG, and DGA as little kids asking for more allowance. It's an odd pov.
But it makes sense if you consider the business which is pretty cut-throat. I remember talking to an IT guy who was head of IT at CBS and NBC - the stories he told me, made me cringe.
The creatives are to a degree protected from some of that. Freelancers and work-for-hire even more so.
It's like every other business on the planet. The work you create - be it cards, containers, contracts, books, etc while you are an employee for the company - belongs to the company. They pay you benefits. They pay you a salary. And they have the ability to fire you at will with 2 weeks severance. Limited vacation. And don't have to give you a raise.
IS it fair? No. Are the head-honchos greedy? Yes. But that's Capitalism. It's the nature of the beast.
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Date: 2007-11-21 01:46 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-11-21 02:08 am (UTC)Oh and actually there was an attempt at going online! Hear the brilliance of Nick Counter (the Pres of the AMPTP):
http://www.amptp.org/
who gives us double-talk like:
"the WGA’s 4,434 working members make an average of $200,000 per year"
yes, a handful make millions, quite a few make a middle class income, and the vast majority are barely getting by (not earning enough to qualify for health insurance). Because we all know that 'average' is a very weak way of discussing such radically different contracts.
The ads were even worse, saying things like the WGA is demanding a totally unreasonable 700% increase!!
And the WGA issued a response:
http://www.wga.org/subpage_newsevents.aspx?id=2578
"The 700 percent increase they refer to roughly translates as 2.1 cents, the 200 percent as 2.5 cents. The AMPTP, as the saying goes, uses numbers the way a drunk uses a lamppost - more for support than illumination. Do the math and you'll see what we're asking for is nothing more than a small, fair respectful share of revenues."
Basically when the AMPTP does make it's position public, they sound worse than when they say nothing at all (at least I would have given them the benefit of the doubt if I hadn't heard the half-truths and lies).
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Date: 2007-11-21 02:33 am (UTC)They'd be better off just making a deal.
Have you been reading wga_support on lj? Some of the posts are truly hilarious. Apparently the fans found one of the network CEO's phone numbers online and have started to calling him non-stop. While others were calling studios. It got so bad at one studio - they had to hire more people to handle the phone calls. Direct quote from one of the networks:"what will it take to get you guys to stop!" I don't think it is the striking writers that are going to break the AMPTP but the angry fans of the writers. The writers have discovered a new weapon - "fans".
Took them long enough.
I've been online long enough to know that one does not mess with a fan who is emotionally invested in (fill in the blank). (Have learned this lesson the hard way. It's akin to trying to take a little gorilla cub from a mother gorilla.)
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Date: 2007-11-19 04:46 am (UTC)Ahem, well, yes, thus my first action in all this was to write all my representatives to say, "What are you doing about this?" Because for now I'm trying to think of this being about writers rights with regards to their own creations and not my state going "where's one of our major economic legs?"
I'm trying very hard not to go into digressions at work when someone says, "Well, I guess you'll have time to read a book now." Eye roll.
Missing the point as to just how much money gets pumped through the California economy through entertainment. And that given the current mortgage crisis, and the general importance of the California economy on a ripple affect stage, um... yeah. All the world's a stage, and we are but players.
But hey, I've written my reps, and my governator (which still boggles me, and yet - huh, oddly fortuitous timing), signed the petition, paypaled some pencils, posted and read posts... now we wait and see.
BTW: Great work on writing really balanced posts on the subject.
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Date: 2007-11-19 07:45 pm (UTC)Hey, You've done more than I have. I'm afraid of pay pal. LOL!
"Missing the point as to just how much money gets pumped through California economy through entertainment..."
Exactly. Have had similar discussions with my father and friends on the topic. Explaining to them that this strike has much bigger ramnifications than the limitation of entertainment options. While it frustrates me that I may not get to see Lost next year or Pushing Daisies could get cancelled as a result of the strike (not that it well, pure hypothetical) - I'm far more worried about the effect this strike will have on the US economy as a whole and the millions of people who rely on the entertainment industry for paychecks...people such as accountants and secretaries and truck drivers and production assistants, who barely make more than 30,000 a year if that.
And it is not just California that will be affected. Quite a few places across the country, especially New York, rely on movie, video, and tv series productions to employ people, bring tourists, and add revenue. Movie theaters rely on it. Small town production companys. Location scouts. Travel agencies. Catering agencies. Marketing firms. Real Estate agents. The list goes on and on.
If this strike gets prolonged and the SGA and DGA are forced to go on prolonged strikes...New York and California will be hurt. And the other states will soon feel the ripple effect. The fact we are on the cusp of a really bad recession due to the foreclosures makes it even worse.
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Date: 2007-11-19 08:28 pm (UTC)