If you do look up Q&A's? Look before 2014, the early stuff - is better. The later stuff - the actors no longer really want to discuss what happened - because they moved on and can't remember it any longer, and they've answered the same questions fifty million times. Also the best stuff is in Marsters Q&A's - he likes to talk about the process of filming and has great stories. Also he plays off well with Amber, Juliette, Julie B, CC, and Nick. There's a great one - that I think is 2011, with Eliza Dusku, Julie Benze, Harmony, Clair Kramer, Nick Brendan, and James Marsters. That's the one in which they reveal some interesting stuff - I think. I've linked to a lot of them in my own journal over the years - but I have no idea which entries or when.
I just stumbled on them out of boredom. Usually I'm watching some dance vid on youtube, or fanvid, and up it comes as the next thing to watch.
Youtube is very weird.
And someone linked me to this which shows the issues Joss had on Avengers and how his approach may not have worked as well on Big Name Actors as on his own creations. ;)
Yeah, I agree. It's kind of hard to bully people who are higher up the pay ladder than you are, and more important to the series. I mean Marvel/Disney most likely made it clear to Whedon that he was the least valuable player in that group. You also don't bully people like Mark Ruffalo, Chris Evans, Robert Downy Jr., Scarlette Johannsen, Sam Jackson, etc. Or Jon Faverau - Jon wrote for Obama, and is a top actor and director, and started the franchise with Iron Man. (I just finished Obama's Promised Land and he mentions him.)
I doubt he bullied the cast on Firefly - they were also more seasoned. And I can't imagine Whedon bullying someone like Nathan Fillon or Alan Tudyke. The rest, maybe. The writers? Definitely. But not Fillon or Tudyke, and doubtful on Torres. On Justice League - I doubt he bullied Henry Caville or Ben Affleck. But the other three, less seasoned actors? Definitely.
Dollhouse? Same deal. He wasn't on set that much either. But Dusku had executive producer credit. And he had people like Harry Lennix, and seasoned actors on that series.
No, the ones that he appeared to do it on were the WB projects, with lesser known casts, and high pressure.
True on Marsters and Head. Marsters states in one Q&A that he spent a lot of time watching people whine on set of Buffy - thinking "you're fired, you're fired, fired, fired.." - he ran a theater up in Seattle for a bit. And their lack of professionalism drove him nuts. He would just sit and study the script, or play the guitar in his trailer. He didn't do any of the other antics. No pranks, nothing. Whedon said once when he was off-set, he was boring. He did his job, then he got out of the way. But he was also 32 years of age, with over 20 years of stage acting behind him. Plus ran a theater, and struggled. He was thankful for the job. ASH - was much the same - he was in his late 30s or 40, with over 30 years of stage and screen experience. And he was older than Whedon. Both are older than Whedon. Whedon was about 26-28 when Buffy started, Marsters and ASH were in their thirties.
They would deal with him differently than someone like Charisma, or Gellar or Trachenberg would have. Plus men.
Poor CC. Also 'Difficult to work with' is clearly just a code.
Well no. It's more complicated than that. She was late to work. She apparently had a prescription pill habit. She would get her hair cut or done without telling them and just show up. (Which is problematic - since they film scenes out of order, and you have to look consistent. Actresses on television series - need to be careful about their looks and how they change their look, same with actors. You can't just go shave your head or get a tattoo. Makeup will have to cover it. Hair will have to buy a wig or find a way to get you hair extensions. Gellar asked a long way in advance to cut hers for example. CC just blithly did it.) Also she'd sit in her trailer and not come out.
They had real issues with the actress, which unfortunately hurt her later. That doesn't excuse how Whedon handled it. But, CC wasn't completely blameless either.
Things are never black and white in these situations, unfortunately.
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Date: 2021-03-04 12:02 am (UTC)I just stumbled on them out of boredom. Usually I'm watching some dance vid on youtube, or fanvid, and up it comes as the next thing to watch.
Youtube is very weird.
And someone linked me to this which shows the issues Joss had on Avengers and how his approach may not have worked as well on Big Name Actors as on his own creations. ;)
Yeah, I agree. It's kind of hard to bully people who are higher up the pay ladder than you are, and more important to the series. I mean Marvel/Disney most likely made it clear to Whedon that he was the least valuable player in that group. You also don't bully people like Mark Ruffalo, Chris Evans, Robert Downy Jr., Scarlette Johannsen, Sam Jackson, etc. Or Jon Faverau - Jon wrote for Obama, and is a top actor and director, and started the franchise with Iron Man. (I just finished Obama's Promised Land and he mentions him.)
I doubt he bullied the cast on Firefly - they were also more seasoned. And I can't imagine Whedon bullying someone like Nathan Fillon or Alan Tudyke. The rest, maybe. The writers? Definitely. But not Fillon or Tudyke, and doubtful on Torres. On Justice League - I doubt he bullied Henry Caville or Ben Affleck. But the other three, less seasoned actors? Definitely.
Dollhouse? Same deal. He wasn't on set that much either. But Dusku had executive producer credit. And
he had people like Harry Lennix, and seasoned actors on that series.
No, the ones that he appeared to do it on were the WB projects, with lesser known casts, and high pressure.
True on Marsters and Head. Marsters states in one Q&A that he spent a lot of time watching people whine on set of Buffy - thinking "you're fired, you're fired, fired, fired.." - he ran a theater up in Seattle for a bit. And their lack of professionalism drove him nuts. He would just sit and study the script, or play the guitar in his trailer. He didn't do any of the other antics. No pranks, nothing. Whedon said once when he was off-set, he was boring. He did his job, then he got out of the way.
But he was also 32 years of age, with over 20 years of stage acting behind him. Plus ran a theater, and struggled. He was thankful for the job. ASH - was much the same - he was in his late 30s or 40, with over 30 years of stage and screen experience. And he was older than Whedon. Both are older than Whedon. Whedon was about 26-28 when Buffy started, Marsters and ASH were in their thirties.
They would deal with him differently than someone like Charisma, or Gellar or Trachenberg would have.
Plus men.
Poor CC. Also 'Difficult to work with' is clearly just a code.
Well no. It's more complicated than that. She was late to work. She apparently had a prescription pill habit. She would get her hair cut or done without telling them and just show up. (Which is problematic - since they film scenes out of order, and you have to look consistent. Actresses on television series - need to be careful about their looks and how they change their look, same with actors. You can't just go shave your head or get a tattoo. Makeup will have to cover it. Hair will have to buy a wig or find a way to get you hair extensions. Gellar asked a long way in advance to cut hers for example. CC just blithly did it.) Also she'd sit in her trailer and not come out.
They had real issues with the actress, which unfortunately hurt her later. That doesn't excuse how Whedon handled it. But, CC wasn't completely blameless either.
Things are never black and white in these situations, unfortunately.